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To Howard Jones of Killswitch Engage – Break The Silence

9 March 2010 195 Comments

By: Darius

UPDATE 3/26/10: We have more on Sara Dunmoyer (aka Allie Foster) no-showing our show here.

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Killswitch Engage

Killswitch Engage

Killswitch Engage lead singer Howard Jones dropped out of their current tour with Dark Tranquility a few weeks ago under somewhat mysterious circumstances. On February 9th, the band issued the following statement on their MySpace page:

KILLSWITCH ENGAGE vocalist Howard Jones is leaving the band’s current headlining tour with The Devil Wears Prada and Dark Tranquility due to unforeseen circumstances. All That Remains vocalist Phil Labonte will be filling in for Jones for a few shows in the interim, until the KsE guys can determine what the plan will be for the remaining tour dates, which are currently scheduled to run through the end of March.

Howard Jones, in happier times

Howard Jones, in happier times

This is not your standard press release, citing family or medical emergency. For the lead singer to exit a major tour that is well underway is no small deal. The band really saved themselves in drafting Phil Labonte of All That Remains, who is a fellow Massachusetts native and a hell of a vocalist in his own right. The guys are friends, their bands share the same fan base, and they won’t have to immediately cancel shows, so it was a wise decision. However, it became glaringly obvious to the Killswitch guys that Howard Jones wasn’t going to be able to return anytime soon and released the following statement on February 17th:

“It became overwhelmingly obvious to all of us around Howard that he is in no condition to be on tour right now and that he needed to get off the road and get himself better. It’s a personal matter and while we understand everyone’s curiosity and concern for Howard and the band, we appreciate everyone respecting Howard’s privacy at this time.”

As it turns out, the Phil Labonte Killswitch shows have been a resounding success and the fans have reportedly been loving the shows. The guys have playfully dubbed the project “Philswitch Engage” and the tour has been rolling on as scheduled. If you haven’t caught any of the shows, please check out some of the clips from YouTube and see for yourself:

I have to admit that based on these clips, Labonte has done a fine job filling for Jones on this tour. We’d love to hear from anyone who has been to these shows, so if you have been to a Philswitch Engage show, please comment the article or send us an email.

Howard Jones and Allie Foster

Howard Jones and Allie Foster

The truth of Howard Jones’ absence was made public over the weekend when reported by Theprp. Howard Jones, who is a married man, impregnated Allie Foster, a p*rn star who has been carrying their child for several weeks. She has been tweeting all the details here so you can read all about her side of it there. If this is true, I have no idea why Jones would need to drop off the tour, you’d think he’d need to keep working, but the fact is we don’t know all the details.

I really don’t want to see All Knowing Force become a gossip site, a la TMZ or anything, but I have one piece of advice for Howard Jones: don’t make the same mistake that Tiger Woods made last year. Make a statement ASAP, clarify the situation, and do not allow the rumors and hearsay to fester and get out of control. Silence is deadly here. If you did indeed get the girl pregnant, please do the responsible thing and take care of the child. Apologize to your wife, pray she forgives you, and get back to work. You’re a great frontman and your fans are more interested in the music than your personal life.

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195 Comments »

  • sonet said:

    Thank you for praising the shows with Phil because the dude is busting his ass. He does the AOJB stuff well, and some of EOH, but the songs clearly aren’t “his” songs. It’s noticeable on most of the tracks from ADD and KSE. He does the AOJB stuff better than Howard. I echo your last paragraph.

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  • mAAT said:

    LOOKING FORWARD 2 SEEING THEM AT IRVING PLAZA, IM GOING BOTH NITES, PHIL HOWARD JESSE I DONT CARE. PHIL TALKS ALL HE WNATS ABOUT HJ BE BETTER VOCALS. NO. PHIL AND ATR OWN KSE BUT KSE STILL ROCKS

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  • baltimore-solid said:

    I was at the first show they did with Phil. All I can say is Killswitch Karaoke.

    The difference between Jones and Woods (other than a billion dollars) is at least we knew instantly that Woods fucked up. I felt sorry for Jones because I didn’t know what happened. I thought it was a serious family problem. Right now it appears he is just lamenting.

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  • POSP said:

    If you don’t know all the details, why even post anything to begin with? This bullshit site has slandered Howard Jones and Killswitch Engage.

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  • arnold said:

    saying Howard left because of getting her pregnant makes no sense. theres a lot more to this story, and I think the way KsE are handling it right. NO COMMENT. anything that is said would get made into a pissing match… its already out of hand. Tabloid style stories based on the twitter rantings of a d-grade porn actress. Surely theres better things going on in music to talk about???

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  • Andrew said:

    @ POSP: We have not slandered anyone.

    @ arnold: It would be a horrible decision on Howard Jones’ part to get in a pissing match. He needs to make a statement, and a definitive one at that. And, you said, “It’s already out of hand.” You’re right. The only one that can stop it is Howard Jones. If what this pig is saying was false, Howard Jones and Killswitch Engage would have squashed the rumors immediately. Fans want Howard Jones on-stage, not in hiding.

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  • arnold said:

    How is anyone going to know if he impregnated her until the baby is born and they do a paternity test? Im sure he fucked her, it doesnt mean its his. She does porn for a living, she wasnt on birth control… Why would he make a comment just to confirm he hooked up with her, “Yes I fucked her”, thats ridiculous. He is a dude, in a band, she is a porn actress who loves dudes in bands and threw her vag at him, of course he dropped it in her. Even if he did knock her up, this is not why he left the tour.

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  • arnold said:

    Also, if what she is saying is false thats even more reason for Jones and Killswitch to not drop to the level of this tabloid nonsense thats all based on some twitter posts of a disgruntled groupie who got knocked up, maybe by him maybe by one of the other 100 cocks that had been in her?

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  • Carla said:

    I’m not a fan of this band but here goes anyway.

    Howard Jones can do whatever he wants and can leave a tour for undisclosed reasons. But now that a woman has come out and made all these accusations, he should say something to avoid further rumors. It’s the nature of the beast.

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  • Carla said:

    Btw, if this sets you off, maybe should check out what Andrew wrote.

    http://allknowingforce.com/wonderful/2010/03/09/howard-jones-allie-foster-dram/

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  • arnold said:

    Why dont you do some real journalism? rather than just ripping stuff from twitter and other internet sites.
    Find out for sure if he is actually married? This is apparently news to everyone.. Who is his wife, where is she from, how long have they been married for. Do some research into Allie Foster and find out how many adult films she filmed in the months of Oct/Nov/Dec the time frame when she would have conceived if she is 4 months pregnant as she posted on Twitter. Theres claims on Blabbermouth he was in a rehab for alcoholism.
    Dont just base an entire article on what you have read on twitter and forums… do some actual journalism and research it and get some cold hard facts, and then come back at KsE and ask them to comment, again not just on internet rantings of a disgruntled porn actress and forum bullshit.

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  • Vinny said:

    Arnold, buddy, you’re contradicting yourself. Read what you just wrote…the whole thing.

    Then read your quote – “Theres claims on Blabbermouth he was in a rehab for alcoholism.”

    I rest my case.

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  • arnold said:

    that’s exactly my point… there are all sorts of claims and rumors going around on the web, alcoholism, pregnancy, stds… you can’t go by what youread on forums where anyone can make claims without backing them up. hence, why I said, do some actual journalism and research that isn’t based on Internet gossip and rather cold hard facts!! then maybe you might get a comment out of the people that you are happily spreading unfouded runes about and expectig them to comment on Internet gossip

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  • Divinity said:

    “The truth of Howard Jones’ absence was made public over the weekend when reported by Theprp.” That’s funny. I could have sworn that it was a rumor, not “the truth”. Silly me.

    I agree with Arnold. No one is doing any actually investigative reports, but everyone is quick to quote Twitter posts and anonymous comments on random metal blogs. I would love it if someone asked questions to someone who wasn’t Allie Foster.

    “You’re a great frontman and your fans are more interested in the music than your personal life.” Isn’t that a bit of a contradiction? You said he shouldn’t be silent, but then you said we are more interested in his music than personal life. Mr. Jones owes us no explanation. Neither did Mr. Woods to be honest, but he had million dollar corporations behind him so he really had no choice in the matter.

    Why does he have to take care of the child? I disagree with this ideal. Unless you mean simple child support, then yeah, but he doesn’t have to physically be there. If, god forbid, I ever get pregnant by some random dude I wouldn’t hold him down if he wanted nothing to do with the child. Why bother? He probably won’t stay there and it’d be a loveless marriage and unstable family.

    But you are right, I’m more interested in his ass getting back on tour. I refuse to let this band go and I refuse to let him leave the band. :P

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  • Andrew said:

    I would like to issue a challenge.

    It can be to either Arnold, Divinity, or to anyone that has an opposing viewpoint.

    Instead of bashing Darius, write an article with YOUR opinion and I would be GLAD to post it on the site.

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  • Kondosis said:

    Why doesn’t the jerkoff that wrote this bullshit article respond? Or is he hiding behind a screen like the bitch he is?

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  • YouKnowWho said:

    I could tell you his wife’s name AND where she lives. He’s in Canada with her. I spoke to BOTH of them a few days ago, before all this stuff blew up.

    And I know for a fact she didn’t film a sex scene since late October. Conception of four months pregnant would be late November/early December. Enjoy. :)

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  • arnold said:

    My opinion is that you shouldnt be posting unfounded rumors.

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  • 1942 said:

    I guess there were no takers.

    Great article Darius.

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  • Dennis said:

    You’re entitled to your opinion, Arnold. I don’t think any of this is out of line.

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  • 5150 said:

    I am in full agreement with Dennis on this one. The article is warranted and fine.

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  • Arched Isis Byleveling said:

    Carla is the voice of reason on the site. We go as she goes.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Howard is NOT married. He may have told Allie he was, but he is not. Get your facts straight. Howard had this coming for a very long time – there are dozens of women coming out of the wood work saying that Howard gave them an STD. In this day and age that is scary. Howard, lay off the alcohol, wear a condom and if that baby is yours TAKE CARE OF IT. You know exactly what it is like to grow up without a father. Do the right thing.

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  • Divinity said:

    My apologies for not responding to your email or on here, but I really have nothing to say that would make a good, lengthy blog. Really, we just have to wait and see what happens and if he even wants to come out and say anything. He doesn’t have to. He owes us nothing. Well, he needs to get his ass back on tour! Ha!

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  • Divinity said:

    @Believe the Hype
    How can we get our facts straight when everyone is spewing random stuff without any proof? :P Someone claiming that they know Howard isn’t a source by the way. There is no absolute way to get the facts without asking Howard ourselves.

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  • arnold said:

    Conception of Four months would be mean conception in late oct/early november

    eg.

    late oct/early nov – late nov/early dec = 1 month
    late dec/early jan = 2 months
    late jan/early feb = 3 months
    late feb/early march = 4 month (which it is now)

    by my math, if you are 4 months pregnant you conceived in late oct/early nov right around the time of your last film

    YouKnowWho said:
    I could tell you his wife’s name AND where she lives. He’s in Canada with her. I spoke to BOTH of them a few days ago, before all this stuff blew up.

    And I know for a fact she didn’t film a sex scene since late October. Conception of four months pregnant would be late November/early December. Enjoy. :)

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  • believe the hype said:

    Divinity
    What is spewing random stuff? Howard is a full blown alcoholic. Period. He is an emotional basket case – with or without said pregnancy with porn star. What I am saying is that you reap what you sew. Poor,poor big entitled rock star Howard is FINALLY getting exactly what he deserves.
    I don’t feel sorry for him at all. For the record, when you put your big ass in the public eye, guess what your personal life is going to be put out there as well. Howard, lacks the ability to make a common sense judgement like protecting women from an STD he is aware of? Morally irresponsible. Why is it we can all criticize a 22 year old girl who is clearly lacking judgement in her choice of profession and apparently star stuck – I don’t know maybe it’s the fact that his breasts are almost as big as hers?
    He is just as responsible for the choices he makes. He makes a baby – HE needs to take care of it. Tattoos and Metal don’t make you a man. Integrity and character do. Get mad if you want. All you are is a fan, and Howard isn’t paying your bills. Don’t defend someone you don’t even know. If you do know him, maybe you’d be wise to set him on the path of redemption. Karma is a bitch.

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  • arnold said:

    believe the hype – “I don’t know maybe it’s the fact that his breasts are almost as big as hers?”

    LOL

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  • Preach! said:

    believe the hype said:
    “…maybe it’s the fact that his breasts are almost as big as hers?”

    Ziiiinnnng! Good one, BtH. He always was extremely sensitive about that area of his anatomy. If he ever reads that, he will probably burst into tears.

    Divinity said:
    ” Someone claiming that they know Howard isn’t a source by the way. There is no absolute way to get the facts without asking Howard ourselves.”

    Are you you f*cking kidding me? With the way Howard lies, you would be more likely to get a truthful, accurate answer from the random person on the web.
    For the record, I wholeheartedly agree with BtH in, that if this does turn out to be Howard’s baby, he needs to step up and take care of it like a real man. Whatever his job, or whomever the mother, he will have a moral and legal obligation to that child. Period.

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  • Divinity said:

    @Believe the Hype
    To me, it’s random stuff. I don’t know you. Right now everything you say, everything she says, and everything everyone else says isn’t the truth because no one is backing up claims. It’s not because you don’t have the proof, it’s because there’s no way to present the truth unless I see it in real life. Not over the internet where photos can be doctored (not saying hers was, just an example) or lies can be told. I’m not trying to start anything, I’m just stating what I think. :P

    I’m not getting mad at all it’s just people keep spreading gossip and telling us they know Howard and we’re just supposed to sit here and believe them. It’s the internet.

    I’m also not defended him nor am I criticizing her. How it was brought to light was done in the worse way possible whether it was a hacker or her.

    And I lol’d at the breast comment.

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  • BoBa said:

    The “jerkoff” doesn’t have to respond. He writes a quality article and then he has Andrew to take the low road in the comments section. Maybe instead of writing articles about Adam he should realize how annoying and immature he is…

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  • Divinity said:

    @Preach!
    Eh, I really don’t care. It’s not my kid. Thankfully, I didn’t make the same decisions Ms. Foster made, despite being the same age as her and a female as well. I agree about child support of this is true though, but now, I just don’t care anymore. :P Probably because I’m falling asleep going back and forth between a book and the internet.

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  • Preach! said:

    YouKnowWho said:
    “I could tell you his wife’s name AND where she lives. He’s in Canada with her. I spoke to BOTH of them a few days ago, before all this stuff blew up.”

    Just curious. Did Howard give you the number and set up the phone call?

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  • LILY said:

    Apparently “YouKnowWho” is Allie herself? She was commenting on this website: http://www.smnnews.com/2010/03/09/killswitch-engage-frontman-howard-jones-knocks-up-pornstar/

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  • YouKnowWho said:

    Arnold — call a doctor you idiot because you definitely aren’t one. They will tell you that being a little over 16 weeks pregnant on this day would mean I conceived LATE NOVEMBER/ EARLY DECEMBER.

    So… Yeah. :)

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  • Preach! said:

    YouKnowWho/Allie

    It doesn’t look like you are going to answer my question, but I am going to give you this anyway. I was mildly curious about the alleged secret marriage, and since I have a friend who does PI work for a living I asked him if he would check on it. Guess what? There are NO records of Howard having ever been married, now or at any time in the past.
    Anyone who knows Howard knows that his favorite tools for manipulation are lying and sympathy. He uses emotional blackmail as often as most people use a toothbrush. Did he pull the heartbroken secret wife out of his ass after you denied his repeated requests for an abortion? Think about it. Howard is like spoiled child who plays on people’s emotions to get his way. Take everything he says with a HUGE grain of salt.
    Next time to speak to him tell him to quit the Canadian vaycay and the drama queen theatre. And tell him to get himself in counseling.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Preach!!!

    I feel like I know you! I could not agree more. My guess is Howard is sitting in CT spinning some silly web to con people into believing yet another one of his BS stories. Bottom line is Howard Jones IS a drama queen and everything that is taking place is his own fault. The only sad thing is that there is an innocent human being involved. I wonder if it was any other black man if people would be so sympathetic.

    If a man told me I had to get an abortion, I would absolutely call him out in the same way that Allie Foster did. Lay down and perform a man’s duties, then stand up and act like one.

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  • believe the hype said:

    For the record.

    Howard is NOT married. Seriously. He’s not married.

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  • Andrew said:

    All Knowing Force will be getting to the bottom of this on Tuesday, March 16th, at 10pm EST. Listen live for more. You won’t be disappointed.

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  • Tim said:

    As Killswitch’s fans got younger and younger, Howard Jones’ brain got smaller and smaller. Liar. Manipulator. Loser.

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  • arnold said:

    YouKnowWho said:
    Arnold — call a doctor you idiot because you definitely aren’t one. They will tell you that being a little over 16 weeks pregnant on this day would mean I conceived LATE NOVEMBER/ EARLY DECEMBER.

    So… Yeah. :)

    Im working off simple math, I dont need to be a doctor to work that out…

    I’m still only getting 14 weeks if it was conceived say on the 6 Dec… which is when you posted on twitter that you took a hot load in your pussy, so I am assuming this is the night in question?? correct me if i am wrong???

    eg:
    6 – dec conception
    13 – dec – 1 week
    20 dec – 2 weeks
    27 dec – 3 weeks

    3 jan – 4 weeks
    10 jan – 5 weeks
    17 jan – 6 weeks
    24 jan – 7 weeks
    31 jan – 8 weeks

    7 feb – 9 weeks
    14 jan – 10 weeks
    21 jan – 11 weeks
    28 jan – 12 weeks

    7 feb – 13 weeks
    14 feb – 14 weeks…

    Where are these mysterious extra 2(now 3) weeks coming from?? A week ago you posted you were 4 months pregnant, which made you 16 weeks then but would make you 17 weeks now.

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  • arnold said:

    Sorry that should read….

    Its 11pm here and Im a little drunk…

    eg:
    6 – dec conception
    13 – dec – 1 week
    20 dec – 2 weeks
    27 dec – 3 weeks

    3 jan – 4 weeks
    10 jan – 5 weeks
    17 jan – 6 weeks
    24 jan – 7 weeks
    31 jan – 8 weeks

    7 feb – 9 weeks
    14 feb – 10 weeks
    21 feb – 11 weeks
    28 feb – 12 weeks

    7 mar – 13 weeks
    14 mar – 14 weeks…

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  • chop-shop said:

    Wait a second! In regards to Howard Jones possibly getting her pregnant, she referred to it as a “hot load in her pussy”? Link me to that.

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  • arnold said:

    @chopshop

    it was on her twitter, has since been deleted..

    but here it is, I did see it on her twitter when this story was first uncovered… and it was posted on some other forums so here it is…

    Such a lazy day…. Last night was so crazy. 8:14 PM Dec 6th, 2009 via TweetDeck

    Metal….. Anal sex…. Then end with a hot load deep in my pussy….. What a GREAT night!!! 4:17 AM Dec 6th, 2009 via TweetDeck

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  • arnold said:

    Maybe this isnt the nite in question she conceived off Howard Jones, as the dates dont work out according to where she claims she is at in her pregnancy. But it pays testament to the fact that she was still having unprotected sex, and who knows how many other loads she was copping? If her last film was in october? What other metal dudes were dropping hot loads in her pussy after taking her in the Ass?

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  • shedskin said:

    I’m not a kse fan, infact I haven’t cared for anything Jones has done since b.h.b.s. I have no inside info too relay reguarding pornstars, or who busted a nut in who. I just wanted too add that it sure seems like “believe the hype” and “preach,” know their shit. This here is a small state. This dude could have fucked up alot of good peoples lives and I hope too god, thats not the case. Knocking up some pig of a pornstar (true or not) would be the least of his problems. The one hard fact that came from that chicks twitter page is that “karmas a bitch.”

    Oh yeah, I 100% believe that miss bukake believes the dude is married. She would also believe that he could lactate from his mantits, if he wanted her too. He was putting it in her ass*,for christs sake, not discussing quantum mechanics. .

    * i’m sorry, I didn’t mean to come off in a way that suggested girls that like anal are “dumb,” My old physics teacher used too walk all bowlegged and she had a phd :)

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  • YouKnowWho said:

    You’re still an idiot, and you still need to call a doctor. I have an idea — my next OB appointment, I’ll have my doctor write out a statement of when I conceived and post that on Twitter for everyone.

    Merry Christmas, moron. :)

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  • Andrew said:

    I want to make something very clear.

    In this article, Darius mentioned Tiger Woods, and there are some parallels between Woods and Jones.

    Tiger Woods was always, as Oprah put it, a “beloved” figure, and to some extent, she was absolutely right. He was to golf what Roger Federer is to tennis and what Derek Jeter is to the New York Yankees, just to name a few. He was supposed to be one of the good guys, and an ambassador to his profession. And, we learned it was all one big lie. This is what angered me the most about the Tiger Woods situation.

    Howard Jones has always had a NOT good…but GREAT reputation in music circles. Just like Tiger Woods, he was considered one of the good guys, and that really made me take a liking to the guy. Plus, I was always impressed with his vocals. Now, we find out that he most likely made not only what he feels is a grave mistake with Allie Foster, but has done similar things in the past. Kind of like when Woods was caught, it didn’t stop at one. As soon as the first girl was announced, countless others followed.

    The only thing I agree with Tiger Woods on is that the media shouldn’t be following his children. That’s ridiculous. That should never, ever happen. However, as far as he’s concerns, he has to realize he is a public figure, and just as people want to ride the wave of his successes, they want to be there to either catch him when he falls, or let him crash to the ground.

    People paid to see Killswitch Engage headline a tour. They’re getting Killswitch Engage with Phil Labonte on vocals. Personally, I think that’s awesome. But, people didn’t pay for that. Tiger Woods is the biggest name in sports. Killswitch Engage is one of the biggest names in heavier music. There isn’t a witch hunt going on or anything like that. People want to know, and that’s perfectly normal.

    **I’d also like everyone to know that I’ve emailed back and forth with some of the posters in this article, and even the ones that seem the most heated, are rational people that want answers as well. Remember that.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    YouKnowWho,

    If this is in fact Allie. You do not need to justify your pregnancy or the dates to ANYONE. People, WHY is this girl on trial? Why? A pregnancy has NOTHING to do with what she claims was her previous employment.
    Why isn’t Douchebag under the same scrutiny? Could it be false idol worship? Believe when I say – KsE is merely a job for him. The women (and there are ALOT of them) were a perk of the job. He’s become metal’s version of Marilyn Manson. Drama,drama,drama.
    Just for the record. There are legal ramifications when you knowingly pass around Sexually Transmitted Diseases. Regardless of what that disease is. I could care less who believes this. I KNOW the truth.
    Instead of manning up to his responsibilities, he decided to use the old “I have a wife who will be heart-broken” story to encourage this girl to abort a child. It’s her body, and her choice. If saggy-bottom, moobies (man boobies) was so concerned about his pretend “wife” then why would he be treating everyone other woman’s vaj like a cemetary and burying his dick there? Howard – I feel sorry for you. Judgement day is here, and we are all watching.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Arnold~

    Do you have children? Are you a woman? Do you understand that conception is not set to an exact date? Do you know that a pregnancy is more like 42 weeks than 40? Just because your home drunk and using your KsE calendar and a calculator does not make you an obstetrician. I’m not trying to give you a hard time, I just think your time would be better spent on something else than playing Pregnancy CSI investigator. If you know Howard personally, or were personally affected by his evil ways you might not be so quick to judge one party and not the other. Leave this poor 22-year old girl alone. What did she ever do to you?

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  • TAke NO PRisoners said:

    Long time listener to your show, first time commenter: the last post by Believe the Hype had me in tears from laughing. I’m looking forward to your show Tuesday.

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  • shedskin said:

    What did she ever do to you?
    Well she threatn to tweet pics of her next gyno appointment for one. Secondly, she keeps posting. Everywhere!!! In places his fan base will read it at that. Is this not bringing everything public??? OH wait!!!! You were hacked??? I forgot. I feel bad for this girl. She says she doesn’t want the attention, yet she’s writing stuff all over the place. She did porno and not like jenna jameson 90′s porno, but gonzo, nasty, porno, stuff that only a special kind of guy can even jerk it too. To be honest I feel bad for her. She desperately wants attention. Yet, she says she doesn’t!! Thats odd. This girl at one time had so much semen on her face it looked like she had a horrible encounter with the “Its time too make the donuts” guy. She now out of the “biz” but wears t-shirts that say “fuck my ass, to rock shows!!!” Come on, Allie, my heart goes out too you,it really does. Just don’t feed us b.s, like you don’t want attention. It’s o.k if you do. We don’t blame you! You got fucked over and went down the slightly immature road, but when you bring things to a public forum, you have to expect backlash. All public matters are open too public opinion and unfortunately your not always going to like the responses. Thats why we keep private matters, just that. I will go on record and say yes, I am an asshole. Ive done some things i’m not proud of, but they are MY mistakes, I certainly would not post them on the fucking internet of all places, where any jerk off can say what they want about my life lessons. I don’t look down on you for any of this. I’m sure you had a tough life, maybe uncle creepy diddled you under the swingset, daddy wasn’t there. So you a made choice in you life to do extreme things for a lil bit of cash and the attention you may get from it. So Fucking What!! Be proud of it!!! Just save the “I don’t want sympathy or attention bullsh#t for somewhere else. Own your mistakes. It makes you who you are.

    @arnold- dude i dont know or pretend to know birth cycles or any of that shit. When i was younger the boys got put into a seperate class, so we got spared that knowledge and the day when we have kids i’m sure we will google it or something. I can’t and wont knock you for those errors. Just let that one go :)

    @ Believe the Hype- you seem to be a sweet girl. You seem fully aware that its human nature to make mistakes and when its obvious a young, troubled girl, needs help, you were very compassionate too her, and you even stuck up for her. I appluad that. Allie must know, that people like you are going to be the minority. People in these places dont want compassion. This is the internet. We want the sick juicy stuff. The only way to make it stop is to not feed the machine. Also BTH,I’m not going to call you out on anything, but i do believe you where in someway affected by this, either personal or thru a close friend. Around these parts we all know someone who atleast had a scare from all this. Those are the people I feel bad for.
    This whole mess is not just about an asshole rock star and an “ex” porno “star.” There definitely are many others who do not want their dirty laundry aired. Not too mention the dudes band, family, fans. I would say recordlabel too (but fuck road runner.)
    As far as Howard rep in music circles, there is no doubt he a talent and a damn hard worker. That stuff goes miles in that line of work. His problem was that he kept working even when music wasn’t involved. Playing a balancing act like that and working peoples emotions is a job within its self.
    I apologize if I insulted anyone. My best advice too allie would be too turn off the computer and just leave everything alone. Believe me, you don’t have to clear your name. Figure out whats best for you and your child. Howard seems to have his hands full, so let him deal with the public side of it. After a paternity test, you’ll get him back where it hurts. The wallet. And for the love of god, please do not say that “i don’t want his money” or “child support.” If it comes out that it is his kid, that money can be used to give the child a better life, so she doesn’t make the same mistakes that you did.

    Sorry for the rant. I think i’m going to put on Seemless. Jesse sure has such a great voice.

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  • GO OUT NICE said:

    I’m looking forward to listening to the show on Tuesday evening. Andrew is at his best when he’s motivated and there are off-beat topics. Other than that, the show sucks.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Shedskin~
    Thankfully I am not involved in this current drama. I do however know more than I want to about Howard. For the record. I’m not young, that might be why I feel sorry for Allie. I don’t think you said anything hurtful to or about anyone. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

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  • arnold said:

    Believe the Hype

    By commenting on public forums you are including yourself in the current drama. I find it strange that if this man did everything that you are all claiming, how does he have such a hold on you all?

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Shedskin~
    Thankfully I am not at all involved in this drama. I am just very familiar with Howard and his antics. I’m also probably much older than you, but thank you for calling me a sweet girl.
    You sure know a lot about Allie Foster’s film career. I’m sure it was just research, right? :-)
    I do agree that Allie seems to contradict herself quite a bit. If she doesn’t want so much attention, she really should just stop responding to what we all write. I also think she’d be a fool not to request support in some way from him.
    I am entitled to my opinion. If anyone doesn’t like it. Don’t read what I have to say. When the truth comes out, and I believe it will people may have a different point of view.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Arnold~

    Well if it isn’t father time!! I could say the same thing to you. How does commenting on a blog regarding this topic put ANYONE in the middle of this drama? Are you saying that the only thing taking place in your life is writing on blogs? Seriously, are you kidding me?
    Are you critical because I don’t agree with you? That’s the beauty of the internet, we can all say pretty much whatever we want.
    Don’t worry, when you talk to your KsE poster in your bedroom tonight (it’s probably in between your Slipknot and Shadows Fall posters) you can tell your pal Howard that I’m a big jerk and that you defended him on a blog.
    Listen, this isn’t the Killswitch Engage fan club. Don’t take my opinion so personal. If this was just between the two people involved – none of us would even know about this. Then we wouldn’t be discussing it. Again, if you don’t like what I say. Don’t read it.

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  • shedskin said:

    Im wouldn’t doubt that i’m older then you. My sense of humor is def still in its mid twenties…

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  • Preach! said:

    believe the hype said:

    “I feel like I know you!”

    We have probably shared similar experiences with Woe is me Jones!

    “I wonder if it was any other black man if people would be so sympathetic.”

    Unlikely. It is a sad fact of American culture. Equally sad is Howard’s doing a real bang up job at perpetuating the negative stereotypes he always painted himself as being better than.

    This whole thing is sad. And yes it does go WAY beyond Allie Foster. Howard has wreaked havoc in so many lives with his catalog of lies and spreading of STD’s. Not to mention going to psychotic lengths to manipulate a young woman into having an abortion. Knowing Howard, I’d be willing to bet he thinks he’s the victim, and is being treated unfairly.
    Unfortunately for his puppet master wannabe self, he just keeps making one bad move after another, and it keeps blowing up in his face. Somebody should give him the memo that the jig is up.

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  • arnold said:

    I guess I didn’t learn in school that conception starts two weeks prior to the sperm impregnating the egg. The US education system has let me down on this one.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    CSI Arnold~

    That is NOT what I am saying. Pregnancy is actually counted in weeks.A doctor does not ask when the day of insemination is. Why is it so important for you to figure out the exact day that this girl got pregnant anyway? She’s not claiming you as the father. Who are you Maury Povich? Baby Mama Drama? Does the “US education system” offer an entire class on pregnancy to males? Seriously, I don’t know what’s more pathetic, the fact that I am still discussing this with you or the fact that you have dedicated almost 3 days on investigating the precise moment that Howard’s sperm met Allie’s egg to create the spawn of hell. I don’t understand you, first you say nothing she is saying has any validity and then you base your entire case on some drunken twitter that SHE wrote and has since erased. Is she a liar only when it fits into the story that you are trying to write?

    Preach~
    Absolutely agree with you. I’m surprised he didn’t use the fact that his cat died 10 years ago as his excuse for all of his behavior. He’s so weak and vulnerable. He’s a real artist. It’s that estrogen fueled sensitivity that gave him such a lovely set of knockers.

    Shedskin~
    No I am pretty sure you aren’t older than me. Anyway, I would like to say one thing. If a girl wore a shirt to a KsE concert that said, “Go shoot yourself in the head” do you think Howard would have done that? I think the poor girl is so starved for attention that she needs to do outlandish things (DUH!) Just because Howard can read and obviously follow directions does not clear him of the repercussions of unsafe sex. They are both dumb asses. There poor child is coming from quite an impressive gene puddle. Or maybe a gene CESSPOOL. ;-/

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  • Preach! said:

    BTH
    Oh noes, not the dead cat! He had him since before he left Ohioooo, boohoo! On a serious note I hope the poor baby does not end up being Howard’s. Not so he gets let off the hook, but because he is certifiable and should not be reproducing. A gene Cesspool for sure. ::cough::
    The only thing I am still baffled about is the alleged alcoholism. Where did this come from? Were his bottles of water and lemonade spiked with vodka?

    Shedskin
    I noticed in your post you said “this is a small state”. Are you in CT or MASS?

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Preach~
    I thought you might get the reference about the genes. As far as I know it’s vodka. Isn’t he supposed to be straight edge? Oh maybe that tattoo got covered up by another tribute to H.I.M.
    What was that cat’s name – wasn’t it the same as the cat from the SNL skit back in the early 80′s.

    I agree about him not being the father. That child will have no chance of a future. What a terrible way to start out a life. Sounds like a Guns N’Roses song.

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  • EcOf said:

    In the midst of a war between the others, I’d like to mention I’m also a long time listener of the All Knowing Force show, way back when it was on here in Syracuse. This is my first time commenting. If Howard was such a good man, how did he escape all these years with that image? Why didn’t this come out sooner?

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  • Divinity said:

    There was a comment several months ago on a YouTube video of an interview with Howard. The person claimed that his cousin had been raped by Howard. Of course, the commenter was met with an angry mob of replies. That was the first instance where I saw someone claim something like that.

    Now, rape is serious, and while none of the women here claimed to be forced into the sexual acts they took part in with Mr. Jones, I can’t say that this is a link in this current “case”. It is an example of the first time I’ve ever seen anyone claim something like that involving Howard. Any other negative comments about Howard have been about his vocal style, writing style, or how he looks.

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  • Hrd2Xpln said:

    Phil can say all he wants that Howard Jones is a better singer but the fact of the matter is that OVERCOME annihilates the last 2 KSE records. Oli can play guitar better with his toes than Adam and Joel can play with four hands.

    Why not get Howard Jones on the show and let him tell his side of the story?

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  • Hrd2Xpln said:

    This situation is intriguing and it’s fitting that Howard is such a big, strong guy but is such a bitch (and a cat owner). Meow.

    Sorry for double commenting. Great article Darius and looking forward to more shows.

    The arguing with Arnold and the other two here is fucking hysterical.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    EcOf~
    The reason this didn’t come out sooner is because everyone was under the assumption that Howard WAS a good man. Much of the gossip surrounding the fact that he was a liar and a manipulative cheat was unsubstantiated. As soon as this Allie Foster news broke, many mystified women who thought they were in a monogomous relationship with him came to the fore front to tell their stories. Much like the Tiger Woods case. Many people were involved with him long before he became the rock star that some people so blindly follow or defend. Knowing him personally and being a fan of his are clearly two very,very different things. I also don’t think there is a war going on, just a difference of opinion. It is alright for people to think differently based on their personal experiences.

    Divinity~
    I think I may also speak on behalf of Preach, but neither one of us has discussed ANYTHING sexual between ourselves and Mr. Jones. Discussing the spread of STD’s does not necessarily implicate either of us. We are clearly both very familiar with him and having said that, it’s unnecessary to go into any sorted details of relationships.I agree that rape is an extremely serious charge and if he did in fact do such a thing, it should have been reported to the authorities rather than posted on a blog. What you said does speak volumes however, “of course commenter was met with an angry mob of replies”. Really? No one, no matter how talented they are should be accused of rape and then have people defend his alleged actions. Howard Jones is many,many negative things, but it is not my experience that he is a rapist. For his sake, I hope that I am right.Men who force women to do anything physical against their will deserve to be in jail where they can have someone do the same thing to them. Period! Go write a song about that.

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  • Divinity said:

    @BTH
    Perhaps I chose the wrong words? When I say of course the commenter was met with an angry retort, I mean, of course people were quick to defend Howard just like they are now (not here obviously) where people have been stating, “no, way! Not Howard! He’s so nice. He’d never do that!” I obviously am going to agree with you on your last statement, but that was really in response to EcOf where he/she asked why wasn’t anything about Howard’s sexual escapades brought out sooner. I meant no offense.

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  • arnold said:

    @Divinity

    By the sounds of it, Howard doesn’t need to resort to raping women, he had no problem talking all these scorned women into bed, for what has been reported to be years according to the various websites where all these women are posting. Fair Play to him for getting away with it for so long. Living the dream. He’s probably still doing it.

    @BTH I’ll high five the poster in my room for his effort. Why are you so bitter anyway to resort to attacks on his physical attributes, you were obviously into him enough to clock up a few years with him yourself. So the man boobs and saggy bottom you speak of used to excite you enough to want him to “bury his cock” in you as you so eloquently put it.

    I dont doubt that you and who knows how many others believed they were in monogamous exclusive relationships with him, but realistically, how often did you actually spend time together for you to assume such a position. Sounds like he was spreading himself very thinly across many a vajayjay…

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Arnold~

    Is this the person that referred to Allie Foster as a “pig”? You don’t even personally know either of these people. You are beginning to sound like the inspiration for “Stan” by Marshall Mathers. Are you in love with Howard? For the record, ARNOLD, I have never said anything about myself,sex and Howard. You think he’s “Living the Dream”? What year do you think this is?
    So now I’m bitter because I don’t agree with you? Aren’t you the one that LOL’d my comparison of his breast size to Allie Foster’s? You have no case, and NO argument. Again, I knew Howard long before he was big and famous and the object of YOUR idol worship. So the answer is yes, I saw him a great deal. Do you think that your ignorance in defending him in this manner is going to make him happy? You sound like a foolish teenager. You don’t need to victimize Howard, he does a good enough job of that on his own.
    Also, I have never and will never use the word “cock”. If you are going to quote me, do it correctly. I am a college educated adult, please try and keep up.
    Arnold aren’t you getting sick of me punking you yet?

    Divinity~
    You are too sweet. Nothing you have written is offensive in any way. Some men (ARNOLD) need to resort to the lowest common denominator because they lack the capacity to have an intelligent debate. Stay away from people like this, they have nothing to offer. His defense to someone’s accusations of rape is that they get enough women so they don’t need to do it. The heir to the Max Factor fortune was extremely weathly and good looking – he was also a serial rapist. He didn’t need to rape anyone, but guess what, his mental illness told him otherwise.

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  • bb said:

    I’m not sure who does has the Webmaster role on AKF, and if it’s Andrew, it will never be done. But can someone look up the possibility that the poster ARNOLD is actually Howard Jones in disguise, or one of his cronies?

    I’m looking forward to the live show tomorrow to hear Andrew’s comments about the situation, which will surely make everything much worse than it already is, and I guess that’s what he eluded to in his post above.

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  • FxBLeSSeD said:

    Cheers mates from Australia!

    OBSERVATIONS

    1) Good article. Great piece of writing. My only qualm with Darius is that he’s the more rational of the two and I’m drawn to the more eccentric half of the team. Very fair and no one can complain about what was written.

    2) Howard Jones is overrated.

    3) Cheers to this thread for keeping me laughing!

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  • Andrew said:

    This is like the twilight zone.

    First off, why are you, FxBLeSSeD, in Australia? Did you move?

    Second, does anyone have anything nice to say about me? I’m not fishing for compliments, believe me, but after reading some of this thread, you’d think I was a monster.

    I agree with everyone else about the comments. This is all extremely hilarious, but at the same time, there appears to be a lot of angry women here.

    I applaud Arnold, whoever that is, for defending Howard to the death. It doesn’t make sense, but that’s not a loyalty you find these days.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Andrew~
    I think the article was great! I guess I would be one of the angry women you are referring to. As they say Hell Hath No Fury!!! That sounds like a great name for a band. Maybe myself and the rest of the scorned women could get together and write some songs. I doubt we could ALL fit on the stage at the same time, considering the sheer number. I mean we’d probably make Earth,Wind and Fire look small.

    BB~
    Good observation. Howard if this is you. LMFAO!!!

    What’s the story with the live show tomorrow.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    HRD 2 EXPLN~

    I’m glad I could help make you laugh. I just hope no one is really taking this all that seriously. Arnold is probably in his cellar/slash apartment at his parent’s house right now making a mixed tape of love songs for Howard as I write.
    Just keep in mind that Arnold is the one who started this whole thing – but the women get called bitter? I don’t understand that!

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Oh Andrew~
    Sorry, but I thought Darius had a great article and yours. Not so much. Adam is an extremely talented person. Not to mention he has worked on a great deal of music for other bands. Who cares if he wears a cape. I don’t think a parent would give a rat’s ass if their kid wore goofy clothes and made an ass out of themselves if they were making the kind of money he makes. Most people in entertainment have a public persona that some might find offensive or irritating – it keeps people talking. Howard Stern is quite a douche on the radio, in actuality he is a pretty mellow and kind-hearted person.
    Don’t use Howard’s drama as an excuse to hate on KsE. They are talented and I do think they will recover from this mess.

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  • arnold said:

    BTH

    For the record I never referred to Allie as a pig. I believe that was Andrew and Shedskin. Not me.

    And I may have misquoted you and said cock instead of dick, same difference.
    “If saggy-bottom, moobies (man boobies) was so concerned about his pretend “wife” then why would he be treating everyone other woman’s vaj like a cemetary and burying his dick there?”

    I’d like to know how I started this whole thing? I commented on a blog as I thought it was unfair to drag someone’s reputation through the dirt without any real evidence, and I did get sucked into the drama of it all. I am interested to see how this pans out, if he did in fact impregnate Allie, and then all these girls started commenting on how he was a Metals Tiger woods, so it took a whole new turn. I cant wait for things to keep popping up. Now there’s rape allegations, alcholism allegations.. WHats next, illegitimate children? homosexuality.. Its becoming fun to follow whats going to happen next. I do find it odd that the howard/the band/the label havent commented on any of this stuff like @Andrew has said. Whether that is taking the high road, or an attempt to try and let it all all blow over and get put in the tabloid basket.

    Also, I did LOL at your breast comment. I actually and without any condescension I find you to be humorous and well written. And the reason I keep coming back to this page is actually to see what you have written and have a chuckle.

    I am not condoning anything Howard did, if he did in fact do any of what is being claimed, its just i take what people and anonymous posters on the internet say with a grain of salt. When this story actually gets proper attention with real journalism and its not just heartbroken scorned women resorting to internet attack, I may actually just believe and sympathize with you.

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  • Andrew said:

    @ Believe the Hype

    I appreciate your comment. I am not using the Howard Jones drama to “hate on” Killswitch Engage. Their last album was not very good, and they’ve been on a steady decline in recent years. Apparently, you’re a fan, and while I can appreciate all the comments you’ve made on our site, you have to realize that your opinion is biased. However, I do appreciate you backing up your statements with opinions and facts. I just don’t agree with them.

    I will address this more on tomorrow’s show, but let me say this about Killswitch Engage’s producer and guitar player. His behavior turns off more people that it turns on. Leap out of the fan circles and speak to his peers. I have, and trust me, they all say he’s extremely talented but is one of the most annoying people they’ve ever met. And this is just what comes up in conversation. As their now 10 year old fans age, they won’t think he’s cool in a few years.

    Maybe James Hetfield should wear a tutu on-stage. Maybe Dio should take the stage in cleats. They’re just having fun. It’s their personality.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Arnold~
    You are right. You didn’t call her a pig. I am going to write more later, but right now I feel like that moment in Step Brothers. “Did we just become best friends?”

    You are really a fan of the word cock, aren’t you? I think you commented on my last post just so you could write cock again. Alright I’ve written that word 3 times in one day – that’s enough for me.

    I’ll be back. I’m sure someone will find something interesting to post here. I am actually finding this thread quite amusing.

    How’s the mixed tape coming along? I know he loves Journey. Maybe you could include “Faithfully” on there. Or maybe “Having my Baby” by Jodeci.

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  • arnold said:

    BTH

    Mixed tape is coming along slowly, I keep getting distracted by my KsE poster…

    Thanks for the suggestions though. All I have so far is HIM – Beyond Redemption.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Andrew~

    I’m not a KsE fan. I couldn’t even name one song. No maybe fixation on the darkness or of the darkness? I know Adam and his work personally, I don’t care for any of their music. At all.
    If his stage antics are so annoying, don’t go see them. If their music sucks – don’t listen to it.
    I have to tell you at some point (probably what you’d call being a sell-out) you are just manufacturing music, personas and touring to maintain a lifestyle. These guys have wives and homes now. How metal can that really be. They are getting older – maybe the endless touring is taking it’s effect on their writing abilities?

    I’m fairly certain that a group of men, ummm….. Metallica cut their hair a few years back and caught all kinds of flack from fans for selling out. I guess what you look like AND according to you, how you act is directly related to your musical ability?
    Music changes and evolves. What’s in style now, may not be in style in a few years.
    Adam has always been a goofy guy. He’s goofy in KsE and he was goofy in Aftershock. If my opinion was biased wouldn’t I be hating on them? Maybe next time you see Adam you could tell him what you think of him. I’m sure he’ll take career advice from you.
    I do agree that both he and Howard have recieved quite a bit of criticism from their peers. Doesn’t everyone if every profession play Monday morning quarterback now and then?

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  • Andrew said:

    @ Believe the Hype,

    As far as career advice goes, Adam could only be so lucky as to sit down for a one hour consulting session with me. But, this isn’t about the business world. So, we’ll let that sleeping dog lie. Let’s assume I can’t add, don’t run in New York City, and live in Chicopee, Massachusetts.

    You’ll NEVER get it. EVER. So, I’m going to stop. To appease you, “Adam D is goofy and I love it.”

    As far as the band goes, I want them to put our records that blow away AOJB. Did you ever think, that maybe for a second, I’m not “hating on” them, but that I’m critical for a reason? If I don’t like something, I don’t talk about it. We talk about Soil on this site and no one cares about them. We talked for years about American Head Charge and three people cared. If you want me to summon troops into action who can confirm my intentions, I can do that.

    Until then, I rest my case.

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  • Preach! said:

    Believe the Hype said:
    Preach~
    “Isn’t he supposed to be straight edge?”

    That is what he always claimed. Not true, it seems.

    “What was that cat’s name – wasn’t it the same as the cat from the SNL skit back in the early 80’s.”

    Never watched SNL, so I couldn’t say. All I remember is it was something unusual and it started with the letter T. I am sure you are also familiar with the sob story connected with receipt of said cat. Wow, that dude really is something…

    “I agree about him not being the father. That child will have no chance of a future. What a terrible way to start out a life. Sounds like a Guns N’Roses song.”

    As soon as I read that I mentally heard Axl Rose screaming “well, well, well, my Michelle!”

    And look at you over here, tearing up asses left and right! I have to say, I really like your style BTH. :)

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  • Preach! said:

    Divinity said:
    “There was a comment several months ago on a YouTube video of an interview with Howard. The person claimed that his cousin had been raped by Howard. Of course, the commenter was met with an angry mob of replies. That was the first instance where I saw someone claim something like that.

    Now, rape is serious, and while none of the women here claimed to be forced into the sexual acts they took part in with Mr. Jones, I can’t say that this is a link in this current “case”. It is an example of the first time I’ve ever seen anyone claim something like that involving Howard.”

    Divinity, there is nothing much for me to contribute here seeing that BTH has covered all the salient points beautifully. But I would like to say this is the first I have ever heard any rape accusations, and although Howard has done a great many bad things to many good people, I do not think he is a rapist. Besides, he would HATE prison with the bad food and ugly jumsuit in place of spiffy designer threads.

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Preach~
    Yes apparently I’m not making any friends here. I am not a woman to back down to anyone. EVER. Now I’ll probably get some seething message about how I am blinded by my rage toward Howard which makes me incapable of having a valid opinion. It’s amazing how fragile the male ego can be at times (NO I’m not talking about everyone) Thanks for the compliment!! Strength recognizes strength!

    Andrew~
    Would you relax. You WERE “fishing” for compliments and I gave you my honest opinion. I’m not sorry. At all. If you are trying to imply that I reside in Chicopee,MA – you are incorrect. I am actually in NYC. You know the place where you run. If I did live in Chicopee, what does that have to do with anything? Are there no intelligent people there? That’s pretty bold. Aren’t you trying to get people to listen to what you have to say and read what you have written. Alienating or questioning the level of someone’s intelligence because of geographic location is just absurd.

    If you know so many people in this music circle why don’t you extend your warm and fuzzy invitation to Adam. “As far as career advice goes, Adam could only be so lucky as to sit down for a one hour consulting session with me”. Isn’t one of your rules to post on this site to be nice? So why aren’t you being nice? Why are you so salty? Is it because very few people agree with what you wrote?

    I understand that you want KsE to produce better music. I get it. Really. Attacking Adam D. however, doesn’t really drive that point home. Sorry. Stop acting like a monster.

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  • Cat said:

    I find it entertaining to see all of these FANS supporting Howard. Please hear me for I am one of those women he deceived. I cannot tell you the countless times he out his fans down. He complained about them,called them names and would make fun of them. He is not the nice guy you all believe and I find it so sad that anyone would continue to support this ridiculous excuse for a human being.

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  • Carla said:

    BelieveTheHype

    1 – I wouldn’t be so quick to jump down Andrew’s throat. I’ve listened to the All Knowing Force show since 2005.

    2 – The comment he made about Adam and career advice had nothing to do with being salty. The guy knows more about business than I learned in four years of college and then grad school times a thousand. He helped my brother get a job at a very prestigious financial firm by meeting with him and then making a phone call.

    3 – This blog version of the site is new but this is his site and he allows people to talk shit about him which has always blown my mind. Maybe that’s why he might have seemed as if he was fishing for a compliment. He gets very few.

    4 – He wasn’t talking down to Chicapee in the least! I know him. He was saying that to be sarcastic.

    *** If I know him, he’s probably thinking of a way to approach you to be his internet bodyguard. He’s the nicest person you’ll ever meet.

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  • 2step3 said:

    Are we talking about the same person? This guy is talks about Adam from kse …

    he has eaten during live shows

    left during live shows

    once called into his own show so he could go to a hot dog stand because his fat ass had to eat

    interviewed himself

    This is an ego maniac who is on par with howard and adam

    Fuck andrew (but akf is an entertaining show)

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  • week-week-this said:

    greetz from germany

    would like to know by cat what he did to you or would like to know from all the girls how he did the decieving and what he did

    can the webmasterr upload interview with mike ness from 2006 where i calleed in?

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  • Believe the Hype said:

    Carla~
    I am listing your numbered response followed by my response. Enjoy!

    “1 – I wouldn’t be so quick to jump down Andrew’s throat. I’ve listened to the All Knowing Force show since 2005.”

    I am simply defending myself. Thanks though for the completely random factoid about how long you have been listening to the show. I’ve never listened to the show, but I do like to watch The People’s Court.

    “2 – The comment he made about Adam and career advice had nothing to do with being salty. The guy knows more about business than I learned in four years of college and then grad school times a thousand. He helped my brother get a job at a very prestigious financial firm by meeting with him and then making a phone call.”

    The way in which he approached his feelings about Adam seemed a little salty to me. Or in my own words that Andrew seems to love so much “hating on”. My heart is warmed that you learned so much about business from him, and that he found your brother a job. Really though, what does that have to do with the article he wrote and the communication between he and I.

    “3 – This blog version of the site is new but this is his site and he allows people to talk shit about him which has always blown my mind. Maybe that’s why he might have seemed as if he was fishing for a compliment. He gets very few.”

    I have a question for YOU Carla. It seems everyone else can curse, say Andrew sucks, talk trash about his show yet I am the only one he immediately writes a response to. Is it because I’m female? Is it because he thinks he can intimidate me? What is it? You seem to have such an impressive insight into the inner workings of such a deep and sensitive man. Andrew, sorry, friend you picked the wrong girl. You better bring a stick and bagged lunch if you want to go head to head with me, cause we’ll be here all day!

    4 – He wasn’t talking down to Chicapee in the least! I know him. He was saying that to be sarcastic.

    Get out of my city!!! Did he say that to be saracastic? Really? Thank goodness you cleared that up for me. I would have continued to walk around thinking that he was being truthful and that ChicOpee (this isn’t the movie Nell Chickapee Chickapee) was the cultural mecca and the hub of music for the East Coast.

    *** If I know him, he’s probably thinking of a way to approach you to be his internet bodyguard. He’s the nicest person you’ll ever meet.

    I’m one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet also. I don’t have any doubts at all that he is a nice guy. I never take anything like this personally – I hope you don’t either.

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  • GREAT ANT said:

    Phenomenal show tonight fellas. I was at Thunder Dome once a few years ago for a metal show and it was the pits. The neighborhood was rutterless.

    Rams Head is much nicer and a cut above Sonar.

    You all have been to lots of venues. Can you start shows on tme for now on?

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  • Preach! said:

    Can anybody tell me what happened on the show? I missed it.

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  • Oscar said:

    They were supposed to have Allie Foster on this week and apparently she bailed at the last minute. The commentary on this was fucking funny as shit.

    There was some great talk about rock clubs in the country.

    A lot of KSE stuff, most of which was positive.

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  • Lord Of Acid said:

    I am waiting for the Allie Foster backlash on this site because I know Andrew is probably pissed but from the wording of it Darius worked out the details after the showw was contacted by Allie herself.

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  • Divinity said:

    Well, I hope they recorded it and post it.

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  • Preach! said:

    That sucks to hear Allie Foster backed out after she contacted the show. Well, she has been nothing if not consistantly inconsistant. She seems like a very confused girl.

    Believe the Hype said:
    Preach~
    “Yes apparently I’m not making any friends here. I am not a woman to back down to anyone. EVER. Now I’ll probably get some seething message about how I am blinded by my rage toward Howard which makes me incapable of having a valid opinion. It’s amazing how fragile the male ego can be at times (NO I’m not talking about everyone) Thanks for the compliment!! Strength recognizes strength!”

    Interesting you mention that BTH. Believe me, the foolish “angry women” and “scorned women” quips did not go unnoticed by me. Nothing like thinly veiled sexism first thing in the morning. lol

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  • hope said:

    Okay,I am not a groupie,and I may not support allie’s decision as a young woman to enter into the porn business. But I have known Howard Jones a very long time and I am not here to bash him but to provide you with the truth. Allie is 22 so for those of you bashing her here. Please give her a break. She is pregnant and overwhelmed. The truth is exactly what is over the internet. Howard Jones managed to deceive many people,and harm alot of good kind people along the way. I am sure alot of his fans hate to hear or know any of this,but for those of you who say you dont care about his personal life and only his professional should maybe think twice. This is a man who has been lying for years presenting himself as a good guy,straightedge,and completely forthright. He isnt. he has lied to every person he interviewed with concerning his habits. Does that not bother any of you? He isnt straightedge but a raging drug/alcoholic. There were 48 women who received an email coming from his personal email account. That is when we all found out what a horrible person he was. There were some who admittedly came out and said they were groupies,but others who were wronged by this man. He lied better than anyone I have ever known. We were all shocked to find out how many,and that he had been having unprotected sex with hundreds of women. He would email,text and call every day,he visited many of us and met our families and friends. It was hurtful,unkind,and beyond humiliating. Those emails pained every one of us,whether you knew about the other women or not those who were in the dark felt violated. I dont care what someone does for a living,it gives you no right to be as manipulating or unkind as he was. One of the girls was so badly hurt I cried after hearing her story. She stood by him,he cried to her,he told her his true life story. What she didnt know was the alcohol and other women. I posted something personal about her on another website and she was extremely upset. I had no right to share her story,but it upset me that he drove a very sweet kind girl to extremes. I have no doubt those of you here do not wish to believe the rumors. But they are true. I challenge Howard Jones to a lie detector test. I gurantee each and everyone of you I would show up,he would not. He doesnt know what truth is. He complained about this business,about hating it,and most of all how much he hated his fans. It boggles my mind to read people defending him when I have heard him making fun of all of you. I watched him purposely ignore a fan in a wheelchair and make harsh comments about how pathetic they were to wait by the bus. I was so angry with him I made him go talk to them,and sign autographs. In return he turned on me that night as a friend and screamed at me to never ever do that to him again. He is a vile human being in my eyes. He continues to contact a handful of us and claim this has all changed him. No it hasnt. If howard changes it will be because he has quit this business,gone thru intense therapy,and rehab,then apologized to every woman he harmed and everyone he lied to including the press and his fans. Have you not noticed he has not contacted anyone? Made no statements? How can he? And only Allie is being blamed. If she wasnt in the adult industry would you all be coming down on her so hard? Remember at that age how lost we are,we are still searching for who we are,and most of all making mistakes. So yes allie was a porn star,but Howard slept with her. I dont think it is fair to judge her. Legally I dont know if we can release the mass email we all recieved but if we can I would print it out on the internet in a heartbeat to show all of you just who Howard Jones truly is. Maybe one of the girls here will write a book or something. As I said I am willing to take a lie detector,I ask you to present that to howard as well. He will not show up,he will not agree to it. Why? because this is not get back at howard rage,this is “see the truth” and trust me when i say many of us do not want to see him go back out there and harm anyone else. One day the truth will reveal itself and I hope Howard Jones will stand up as a man and as an artist and admit his wrong-doings. He pained many people. I hope he gets the help he needs. I hope he comes forward to accept responsibility for the baby. Allie didnt do this by herself. So before you all slam her remember please it takes 2 and howard was a participant in all of this. His silence should be a clue all of you. At least Jesse James came forward to admit his transgressions. Howard,has no clue what truth is.

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  • hope said:

    PS If you all go to metalsucks.net you might be interested in knowing the editor there does know Howard and knows he was married. For that reason he stated he was afraid to originally print the story due to knowing he was a married man. I realize some of you may not know this information,but there are some who apparently do. Whether it turns out he is married or not. Does not matter. The story remains he did pull out of this tour because of all of this coming out. He isnt stable,kind ,or the good guy you all thought he was. Many people including myself used to believe in him. He fooled me and he fooled alot of us. I dont believe Howard will make any statements. It would require truth. I have years of text messages I can pull from the phone company as I am sure many others can. Lets see if Howard is willing first to come clean to you all. To go on your radio show and take a lie detector test. I hope,truly hope he gets it together,but he has been doing this over 14 years. Do I believe he will change anytime soon? NO! I just issue this warning to any girl/woman who comes in contact with him. Dont belive him when he tells you he isnt sleeping around,that he isnt that type of guy. Dont believe him when he tells you how much he loves you. Just walk away and pray for him. Because he needs serious help and prayers.

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  • Divinity said:

    Are you guys going to post the show from last Thursday?

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  • kass said:

    No one will know who the father of the baby is until it is born. Allie wasnt on birth control and she was a porn actress. Enough Said.

    In regards, to all the other women who have been telling their stories about Howard and what a class act he is. Sounds like he played you all, which sucks, but learn from it and move on. He obviously is a very empty and shallow human and will end up a lonely old man from the sounds of it if he keeps treating people so poorly.

    I dont understand why this is all over the web though, this whole story is nothing new. Dude in band with women in every city? Yawn! Old news.

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  • Divinity said:

    I’m sure someone said it before, but the reason why it’s all over the internet is the same reason why the Tiger Woods situation was all over the media. Both of these men are alike in so many ways. Both Mr. Woods and Mr. Jones were seen as likable, charismatic men who had their heads on their shoulders.

    Howard was never perceived nor never showed himself to be your typical metalhead. People always reported that the guys from Killswitch Engage were the nicest guys in metal and that Howard was on the shy side. Even on KSE’s DVD “Set This World Ablaze” everyone from Randy Blythe from Lamb of God to Jesse Leach were saying that he was a quiet guy, always to himself. No one gave hints or seemed like they even knew what was going on behind the curtains.

    That’s why it’s so outrageously scandalous. If all the tabloids, TV specials and shows, blogs, and other gossip tripe in the media is any indication, Americans — not all, but a lot — crave celebrity gossip. They love to see these highly-worshiped humans fail. Whether it’s because it reminds them that celebrities are as human as them or because they have a side to them that loves gossip that is insatiable, they love it.

    Regardless, it doesn’t effect me much as I don’t really care what Howard does with his life. I find it all amusing, but I’m sick of playing the waiting game. I want to know if he’s still in the band or not.

    You have to admit though, this would make a pretty good Lifetime movie. :D

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  • kass said:

    @Divinity you claim this doesnt affect you much, but Ive seen you on multiple sites in regards to this topic, seems to affect you A LOT.

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  • jed said:

    @kass There could be more than one person using the name Divinity. Especially if it’s on other sites.

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  • Divinity said:

    @Kass
    You’re right I have posted on multiple websites about this, because like I said I want to know the whether or not Howard is still in the band. Just because I’m curious doesn’t mean it’s affecting me. :) Just like when Tarja left Nightwish, Textures’ singer left, and Theatre of Tragedy fell apart. I’m curious to know why then move on.

    Plus I visit multiple metal blogs and the majority of them seem to be posting this story. :P

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  • Preach! said:

    @ Hope
    You have to know it is highly unlikely Howard would submit to a lie detector. Besides, why would you want to do that to a poor defenseless polygraph machine? It would probably explode from all the stress!
    I don’t know about the legalities in regards to releasing emails or text messages, that is something you would need to research yourself. I read that one of Tiger Woods women recently make public some of his dirty texts.
    It has already been made clear to most who know him that Howard is a sick person. To the supposed handful of women he allegedly started contacting again, don’t be flattered. He is only doing so because he believes you are gullible enough to be suckered in again, thinks you will be of some use to him, or otherwise sees you as an easy target. Be strong and wise enough to prove him wrong. If you are in doubt, read up on sociopathic personalities and familiarize yourself.

    @ Divinity
    Right now, the rest of the band and even Howard himself are probably unsure of what his future will be. He’s in the middle of a huge mental collapse, and who knows how long it will take him to recover.

    @ Believe The Hype
    Where are you? Come back and post something lady!

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  • arnold said:

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  • Divinity said:

    @jed
    Chances are it’s me. Though I’ve only used it on The PRP and MetalSucks. :P

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  • jed said:

    @Divinity
    Okay.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Preach!
    I am back!!!! I missed you guys! Hope, right on girl. I’d love to see his ridiculous mass email. He’s such a dream.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Umm Arnold~

    I am not satanic black panties. Again nice investigative work. You put 2 and 2 together and got 22. Nice work detective.

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  • Preach! said:

    Thank goodness you are back BTH! For a minute I thought you jumped ship. I would so love to talk to you off the board about a couple things. Hit me up if you’re agreeable, but if you are not I completely understand and won’t be offended.

    ATTN MOD: If it is possible could you please pass my email address on to BTH? Not the numeral aol one, but the Gmail one. I would be very gratful if you could. Thanks!

    lol’ing @ Arnie getting poked with sticks wherever he goes.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Preach~

    Would love to talk to you outside of this blog. Definately would appreciate if the powers that be could exchange our emails for us. Please and Thank you!!!!

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  • Pinks said:

    okay, so I’m just gonna throw my opinion out…

    Preach- YOU HAVEN’T SAID ANYTHING THAT IS WORTH READING HERE. You and BtH can have fun at your anti-Howard support group. =)

    BtH- you either know way too much about this or you just make stuff up.

    Arnold- did you once have a show on Nickelodeon??? lol jk bro… really, I appreciate the loyalty you show for Killswitch.

    Somewhere up there, one of you hater people said KsE is just a job to Howard. IMPOSSIBLE. In metal, if you don’t care, you don’t stay.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Pinks~
    You are a moron. Enough said. You appreciate Arnold’s loyalty? Are you in the band? Are you on KsE payroll?

    IMPOSSIBLE? In metal, if you don’t care, you don’t stay? You are as queer as your name. Arnold is intelligent and worthy of having a debate with. You are absolutely ridiculous. This topic is WAYYYYYY too old to be discussing at this point. You missed the boat Pinkie Tuscadero. Why don’t you go celebrate that Howard is going back on tour with Killswitch. You do not know any of us. We know Howard personally. Preach is a friend of mine and if you go after her, you go after me and you don’t want to do that.
    By the way Andrew must love your fabulous grammar “hater people”? You have got to be about 17 years old. Go put your cape on and fly your ass away.

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  • Bushido said:

    Geez, who to side with… The serial womaniser and emotional blackmailer, or the glorified prostitute… *wieghs up the options*

    Think I’ll sit on the fence and let them battle this out between them.

    I’m brand new to this website, but I love the comments on this particular article!!! I’ll definitely be back again. And I hope to see more of everybody who commented on this page!

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  • michelle said:

    So he’s going back to tour.
    And the cycle begins again, his trail of deception and destruction continues.

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  • stuart said:

    can i just say…that kids gonna be fucking awesome

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  • believe the hype said:

    Michelle~

    I couldn’t believe it myself. My question is what rehab did he go to? He wasn’t off the scene for very long. Maybe because he is so “metal” he had to go back out tour. No actually, maybe it’s more like he needs to save his money for the baby mama support payments that are coming up. I really hope that enough talk has been brought up about his sexual health that women will think twice about being intimate with him. I mean really if Gigi Allen was alive he’d have a better chance of getting some unprotected ass than Howard.

    What continues to piss me off, is that being honest comes off as jaded and hateful.Why is it that because we are women our opinion even if it’s in support (Destiny) it’s disregarded or less impactful. Now a male who is a complete douche can come on here and say something as stupid as “In Metal if you don’t care, you don’t stay” and it’s revered. Oh yes, Pinks I’m talking to you. I have two questions for you: Did you watch School of Rock before posting? and Is it difficult to talk with Howard’s dick in your mouth?

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  • michelle said:

    BtH

    I agree with you 100%

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  • Preach! said:

    @ Pinks
    Something in my worthless writings must have stuck in your craw judging by you seething response. Nice try kiddo.
    By the way, it is not so much a Anti Howard group as it is two women discussing girly things like socks and shoes and food, glorious food!

    @BTH
    Aren’t rehab clinics pricey? Maybe that’s why he didn’t go. I am curious to see how this mini tour goes for him, now that Hobag Jones is basically a laughingstock.
    These guys should seriously win an award for writing the headline of the year. http://heavybrutal.com/?p=30

    @Michelle
    Him being back on tour so soon IS a scary thought. All the venues hosting the concerts should post signs advising any and all females, ages 18 to 80, to wear their favorite biohazard suit to the KSE show for their own protection.

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  • arnold said:

    If everything that has been posted on here is true, I hope everyone of you posting on here, don’t hide behind your computer screens and use this opportunity of Howard Jones going back on tour to go to the shows and confront him.
    Men who behave in this manner need to realize there are consequences for their actions no matter what they do for a job.
    At first I didnt believe all the tabloid style headlines and stories in regards to this, I still question that Allies baby is Howards, she is afterall a porn actress not on birth control, but there has been an overwhelming amount of women posting on this and various other sites as to Howard Jones character, or lack there of.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Arnold~

    That is why I respect you my friend. You are a fan of the band, but you are not allowing that to cloud the truth about Howard. Now do I know for certain if he impregnated Miss Muffet, I have no idea nor do I care.I think what is terribly tragic is that according to her he demanded an abortion. His mother should have aborted him – that’s a human life – who is he to play God. I am not saying I’m not pro-choice, I feel your life, your body. I do however feel NO man has the right to demand a woman get an abortion because it will complicate his already complicated cluster f*ck of a life. On top of that to create a pretend wife named Diana who lives in Canada is the corniest thing I have ever heard. There is someone in Killswitch with a wife who is from Canada, but that person happens to be Joel, not Howard. I wouldn’t pay a penny to go confront Howard at one of his shows. This army of women is strong and mighty and we are getting him now through all of these blogs. I know his character, I know he has put people’s health at risk without ANY apologies or regard. This isn’t going to go away for him. There is a reason for Hell Hath No Fury like a Woman Scorned. CSI Arnold, I truly salute you for showing us the respect we deserve and understanding that none of us (excluding Allie) deserved this. We are not groupies, we are people who were lied to and deceived and there is a big difference.
    If anyone has a problem with what I have to say. Bring it. I’m not going anywhere and I’m not intimidated. For Allie’s sake I hope the baby isn’t Howard’s but something tells me that it is.

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  • mAAT said:

    HOW BIG IS HOWARDS SCHLONG?

    MIGHT AS WELL FIND THAT OUT WHILE WERE HERE!

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  • believe the hype said:

    mAAT,

    It’s my understanding that he likes to show it to people. Maybe if you go to one of KsE’s shows you’ll get your wish. Just look with your eyes and not your hands. Best Wishes!

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  • Preach! said:

    believe the hype said:

    “Just look with your eyes and not your hands.”

    Not only that but also spray yourself liberally with a disease repellent body mist.

    ::waves at the new Sherlock Holmes:: Nice to see you back Arnold!

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  • believe the hype said:

    Preach~

    Seriously, at this point I would say a HazMat suit would be in order. I’m still waiting for Pinks to make a comment. Maybe he’s the wimp I suspect he is and knows better than to go up against some educated women. Or maybe he’s too metal and he’s in up in his bedroom wearing a KsE shirt that is too sizes too small (similiar to Howard) with a pair of washed out Levi’s and some black sneakers head banging until he has to take some Children’s Tylenol. I’m sure he has a matching jean jacket with patches his Mom sewed on for him, what I like to refer to as a Texas Tuxedo when he leaves the house.

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  • believe the hype said:

    I meant to say two sizes too small on that sweet t-shirt

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  • Andrew said:

    There are some passionate people in this thread. Wow.

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  • Preach! said:

    @BTH
    I doubt “pinks” will make any comment either. He or she is just a dumbass trying to take some cheap shots. And don’t go knocking Howard’s too tight tees! I mean, what better way to showcase his hot moobage.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Preach!

    When I think of Howard’s breasts, I feel like wretching. I think we should all pitch in and get him a cross your heart brassiere and a pair of matching panties. I figure at least once in his life he should know what it feels like to wear underwear (and a bra).
    What is up with that psychopath on that other blog? If I ever saw him in person seriously, it would take great restrain for me not to punch the sh*t out of him. Who pretends they have cancer? Not Cool!

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  • aaron said:

    that is such crap, i HIGHLY doubt that howard got that hoe pregnant.
    hes to smart to do such a stupid thing, the reason he left was most likely family issues. KsE4Life.

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  • Andrew said:

    @ aaron

    Howard Jones should have come out and made a statement either way. It’s that simple. All of this would have been over. Now, all there are is questions.

    My only hope is that they hit the studio and put out a great new album that in no way resembles the last one.

    Thank you for writing.

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  • Preach! said:

    @BTH
    That is a fantastic idea sister! Seeing that he’s mister sensitivity and all he will probably want a minimizer bra, but I’m thinking a frilly push-up style that will give him sexy cleavage when he wears his too tight wife beaters.

    @Aaron
    I don’t doubt it because it is HIGHLY likely he did get her pregnant. I KNOW that Howard has a fondness for unprotected sex, just like I KNOW he lost his shit at the beginning of the year over this Allie Foster thing. Howard is a good liar, I will give you that. But no, he is not too smart in many other areas.

    @Andrew
    I agree Howard should have said something, but it is also typical of him to hide in a corner and hope whatever problem will fade away. Too bad for him that this ugly chapter will follow him for the rest of his career.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Have you guys see the comments on voy.com? Man, Howard I agree with Andrew you should have come out and said something!!!

    Preach! this will follow him forever. LMFAO. Karma is a BITCH!

    I’m looking forward to seeing what Allie’s next move is. Too bad Arnold isn’t around because we could know exactly when the spawn is due to erupt from her vagina.

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  • HolyDiver42 said:

    Until i see some more evidence, i will remain skeptical. I used to THINK (just my thoughts, not saying that it’s true) that he left for any number of reasons from the following:

    1. He screwed up his voice. If you watch his interview on the World Ablaze dvd, he sounds find. On the latest self titled album, he sounds like he has a cold or something is wrong with his voice. At an interview right before he left, he sounds horrible.

    2. He got depressed. The latest album is pretty dark, definitely not like any of the other albums. It’s all about heartache and hate, not very happy.

    3. He hurt himself. He talked about a time he slipped a disk on the World Ablaze dvd, so it is possible he pulled an Adam and had to leave tour for health reasons.

    I’m not taking a side either way, but I’m not going to point fingers until I see some proof. Allie Foster’s posts seem rather capricious to me. Given some time the truth will be known, just not at this moment.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Holy Diver????

    Are you kidding me? Oh poor Howard got depressed. Maybe Howard slipped a disk after his drunk ass fell. Adam had back SURGERY, not the same thing at all.
    Are you just joining us? The truth is that Howard is a despicable human being whose Karma finally caught up with him. My opinion is that this pregnancy deal was looming (whether it’s legit or not) and his addiction problems were catching up with him. Howard is NOT the person he has portrayed himself to be. His world was crashing in, and if he was depressed it was because HE had played so many people so dirty and it finally came to bite him in the ass. You know when the mask falls off it makes a big thud. I’m just happy we can all be here to see it.

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  • Andrew said:

    There are numerous reasons Howard should have made a statement. I completely understand he wants to keep his private life just that – private. With the exception of Facebook junkies, don’t we all? But seriously, if a simple statement was made, this could all have been avoided.

    It appears to have died down, but no matter what, there will always be questions.

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  • Zazikel said:

    Preach! said:

    Believe the Hype said:
    Preach~
    “Isn’t he supposed to be straight edge?”

    That is what he always claimed. Not true, it seems.

    “What was that cat’s name – wasn’t it the same as the cat from the SNL skit back in the early 80’s.”

    Never watched SNL, so I couldn’t say. All I remember is it was something unusual and it started with the letter T. I am sure you are also familiar with the sob story connected with receipt of said cat. Wow, that dude really is something…

    @ Preach & BTH. That Cat’s name was Toonces! (the driving cat), my dears. Just thought y’all might wanna know that.

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  • arnold said:

    Ahhh I was wondering when this would all fire up again. Where is the info coming from that he isnt straight edge?

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  • believe the hype said:

    Z~
    Not true at all. Howard is a drunk. Arnold, my friend that information is coming from many people who are/were very close to him. You’d think the lead singer of a metal band drinking wouldn’t be a big deal or something one would need to hide, I guess he is probably regretting that tattoo on the back of his neck.

    Yes, Toonces was the name of his cat. It’s dead now. You know, maybe the reason that he is a drunk,womanizing, lying doucher is that the grief from his cat dying pushed him over the edge. Hey, it worked for Kanye… sort of.

    P.S. The new KsE video is lame. What’s up with the Davy and Goliath claymation. Looks like they molded Howard out of a piece of turd. How fitting!

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  • arnold said:

    Well I guess it will all come out in an official statement at some point? Or maybe not.

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  • believe the hype said:

    I doubt they will make an official statement. I do know that Allie is officially pregnant, now whether it is H’s remains to be seen. If it has teeth like Howard it will probably chew it’s way out of the womb.

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  • michelle said:

    BTH
    You make me laugh.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Thanks Michelle! Anytime.

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  • Preach! said:

    believe the hype said:
    “You know, maybe the reason that he is a drunk,womanizing, lying doucher…”
    I would like to add whiner, back stabber and mooch to that list.

    “P.S. The new KsE video is lame. What’s up with the Davy and Goliath claymation. Looks like they molded Howard out of a piece of turd. How fitting!”
    The video is pretty lame, it looks like it was made for children. I wonder why they went the claymation route. Weren’t they able to get H sober long enough for a shoot, or maybe the other guys were scared of being too close to someone who should be under quarantine. Even the aliens did not even want to get too close to his filthy peen to do the usual reproduction experiments. Instead they left his ass sitting off in a corner by himself!
    Q: what is another name for a dried up turd wrapped in a pale blue button down shirt?
    A: Howard Jones.

    @Michelle
    She is funny! I’m thinking I should compile a list of BTH’s greatest Howard slams and send them to him. The moob comments would have him curled up in the fetal position crying like a baby.

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  • michelle said:

    I wonder if he even cares or considers what he has done? It seems he is unaffected by it all and is carrying on as per usual. Im sure that many of his slew of sluts have taken him back, He tried contacting me back in March from a new number saying that he has changed and that he is different now and that he wasnt responsible for the email that went around in January and he was hacked? Lying sack of shit. I never responded. But Im sure some of the girls were gullible enough to believe him. They all probably think they are special and the only one he is still talking to.

    BTH – Keep it coming, you have me in stitches.

    I hope the doucher is reading all of these sites and he realises he isnt as untouchable as he thinks. Hopefully his female fans are too and they cut him off.

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  • tmo said:

    I was wondering what the mass email stated. I did receive a message from him stating not to contact him any further but he told me his email was hacked. I’ve been reading the postings and they make me laugh. So many things BTH, Preach and Michelle have said are so true. I just wish more people knew that Howard is not sweet nor innocent. He does hook up with women while on tour although he will say he just chills on the bus. He makes fun of his fans, blows off interviews which are an example of his character. Therefore, he does not care about his bandmates, his label, music associates or anyone who he is in contact with. Howard only cares about what Howard wants and will cry like a baby to get it. He dismisses work related issues knowing that his music associates will work around his schedule.

    There are a few things mentioned that are for sure and those of us who know Howard know this 1) he is an alcoholic 2) he has unprotected sex 3) he will give you and disease and will dismiss you when you question him about it (just like you may question him about any of his habits)4) he cries like a baby and has night terrors 5) he will use his I don’t have a father and my family is dysfunctional to gain sympathy 6) he will call you or text you all day long so don’t think you are the only woman in his life! I am seriously surprised he does not have carpal tunnel. 7) He likes his anus to be played with 8) I wouldn’t put it pass him to ask another female to pretend to be his wife so that he may coerce Allie into getting an abortion 9) he is back on tour and will be fucking everything that walks that will have him without any protection 10) he has boobs
    Oh yes, he is a drama queen and needs an Oscar!

    I think it is really weak of him never to speak up about why he left the tour. I don’t think it is merely that he knocked someone up or got his accounts hacked into. I am not sure about whether or not he was in rehab but I do know that if he actually did go, it was a waste or his time and money because he continues to drink. All these complaints about him being sick in the hospital are his own doing. Do not feel sorry for him.

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  • michelle said:

    TMA -

    Its insane how similar all our stories are. I feel sorry for any of the girls who have fallen for his “I was hacked routine”. He tried that with me. I didnt buy into it this time. I am guilty of being sucked into his tears and sympathy routines for way too long. He seemed so genuine. He is a master liar and manipulator. I wasted 8 years on that asshole. I feel like a fool, but as you said, he would text me all day long, call me, tell me about his family, and apparently he didnt tell anyone the things he told me. What a load of crap. Luckily, he didnt give me an STD or disease, in fact he didnt give me anything. He stole a lot though. My time, my heart, my life. Thank God, he was finally exposed for the asshole leech he really is.

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  • tmo said:

    ugh and I hate how someone wrote on Voy.com that he is delicious. Really? His penis is diseased and I am surprised it hasn’t fallen off! No man’s penis is worth a lifetime of worrying about your health.

    @Michelle I was one of the unfortunate ones that acquired something from him. I know it was equally my fault as his. I regret every second I spent with that guy or talking to him. Seriously, I can’t wait for karma to bite him in the ass. Wait, he might like that!

    And I don’t doubt that he pays attention to these sites. He says he is never on the net but I caught him on it. Even his band’s website which he had told me he never gets on. I know he wants to know what people are saying about him though he acts like he doesn’t care. Those night terrors that he has must be about all us women who are exposing the creep for what he is. He really is mental and should take time away from his music to heal himself.

    In one way I hope it is his baby so he can get what he deserves but at the same time I don’t think he could ever be a father for this child. Since his dad ‘abandoned’ him as a child and all his mental problems, I think this child would suffer and would be better off without one.

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  • michelle said:

    @TMO

    Oh boy, Im sorry to hear that. I feel blessed that I didnt contract anything from the SOAB. I saw on another website that some girls had contracted herpes. We are lucky that with his extensive and unsafe sexual activities that no one contracted HIV or AIDS or Hepatitis.

    I feel sorry for his new lot of girls that are unaware of his act. He had them perfected for us all, and I feel like an idiot for falling for them. I was stupid enough to believe what he told me, he was so believable. I wonder how many girls he has talked into abortions in the past. He really is slick with words. I regret ever having anything to do with him. I feel sorry for Allie, if it his. His Family is obviously genetically disabled in many ways. This genetic cesspool lives on. He should be castrated. He is a menace.

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  • michelle said:

    Someone described him as delicious? Disgusting is more appropriate

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  • tmo said:

    No wonder he labeled his company ‘Cesspool’!!!

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  • believe the hype said:

    Ladies~
    I have also heard that he has herpes. It thrills me to no end to think that he is reading everything that I write. It’s the reason I won’t ever stop. Number one there is no way he went to rehab, the time frame does not support it. Also, all of the “hospital stays” are related to alcohol. Google pancreatitis and it’s causes – that’s all I am going to say about that.

    HOWARD, I’m speaking directly to you, whomever described you as delicious needs that word re-defined to her. There is nothing delicious about you. You smell musty, your breath is kicking like a horse ALL THE TIME, and WHAT is with that ill-fitting, giant shoulder-padded suit jacket? It’s not even a sport coat so why are you wearing it with jeans? I can’t tell if you are trying to look like the singer from the Talking Heads or Dorothy from the Golden Girls. Although, I should be thankful that when you have that jacket on we don’t have to experience those arms of yours with your size XXS sleeveless babydoll T-shirts. Seriously, you have bingo wings – if you wave goodbye to someone you’ll probably end up slapping your own self in the face with all that flabby skin. You paint your toe nails – need I say more? Old ass Prada shoes do not a fashionista make.

    Please respond. Nothing would make me more happy than to punk you in front of everyone. P.S. Maybe if you saw a dentist, brushed your 3 rows of teeth, scraped your tongue, used Listerine followed by Scope and killed your cavity creeps your mouth might not be such a CESSPOOL.

    All my love you doucher,
    BTH

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  • michelle said:

    I doubt he will ever respond. He is a coward with no conscience. The fact that he is knowingly having unprotected sex whilst having numerous STDs is dumbfounding. He thinks he is smarter than everyone around him. I love that finally the consequences of his actions are maybe catching up with him.

    I do feel sorry for those poor girls who are still buying into his bullshit. As its those girls who make him think that he is still getting away with this appalling behavior. He will continue to do this until it all comes crashing down. I thought that the pregnancy and the public exposure may have changed him.

    Seems he is still up to no good. As my mama always said, “you cant polish a turd” He is exactly like his abusive addict family. Something that he will use for the rest of his life to excuse the terrible way he treats people and use it to play the victim.

    It’s time for him to grow up and face the music.

    BTH – Keep up the awesome work.

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  • tmo said:

    I have a feeling he was the one that went on Voy.com and described himself as delicious. Hoping that would make women want to be with him.

    @BTH I wasn’t sure about the rehab thing either. But I definitely believe the hospitalizations are due to his drinking. Maybe he should continue drinking and stay in the hospital more, that way he won’t be able to infect anymore women with his biohazard of a penis! Hospitals do take out bioharardous waste and burn them up. Maybe they can do that to his.

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  • Susie said:

    Howard is not married!!!!!! He is just a piece of shit that drinks too much then cries that he wants to kill himself and then goes to rehab to do it all over again, meanwhile fucking anything that moves. I pray you didn’t spread any diseases you sick fuck!

    Get a life you fucking looser!!!!

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  • tmo said:

    Where else can we write to warn women to stay away from him?

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  • believe the hype said:

    I think someone should start another thread on voy.com that way we can all warn any future victims of all of Howard’s nasty std’s. Let me know if one goes up, I’ll be sure to write on it. I’m interested in knowing just how many women there are.

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  • Preach! said:

    So he said he was hacked? Now that is funny! He must have pulled that stinker from The Dog Ate my Homework book of Lame Ass Excuses. The hacker must have been really talented too, to be able to perfectly imitate Howard’s choppy, melodramatic writing style.

    @TMO
    You don’t know how much that bums me out to hear the idiot gave you a disease. I do hope you are ok. I do agree fully that both parties are responsible in spreading diseases, but in this case H had the greater responsibility because he likely knew and never warned you or made an attempt to protect you from it. In my opinion he either doesn’t care that he’s spreading STD’s, or he wants to spread them. Either of those reasons make him a truly foul human. Who in the hell does he think he is anyway, one on the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse spreading pestilence though several countries?
    I did have a laugh at you mentioning the night terrors. It reminded me of one time when he woke me up because he was whimpering and shaking so violently in his sleep. He really is infantile in many ways, almost like his emotional growth stopped during his childhood.
    I also agree with you that he should not be raising any child. In my opinion his influence would do more harm than good.

    @Michelle
    Try not to feel foolish for buying his numerous lies and BS. It’s normal to want to believe the best in people, and besides look how many other people he conned. He had the world believing he was this great guy when in fact he is a calculating psychopath.

    @BTH
    Burn!!! You are probably making him cry again! He is very proud of his distinguished fashion sense. After all, that styling blazer was VERY expensive, dontcha know!
    So he really does paint his toe nails? lol. The mystery of the perpetual sock wearing has now been solved! He is one weird dude, and the only man I have ever known who shaves his legs.

    And for anyone who is curious about the voy.com references, I believe this is what is being mentioned. http://www.voy.com/85692/7638.html
    That thread reads like an encylopedia of STD’s. It might sound melodramatic to some, but I think H is a hazard to the public health and should be forced into some type of rehab program.

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  • michelle said:

    It’s all so disgusting. He really is an awful person.

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  • Kreator said:

    I have a question for the ladies.

    Did Howard nail you all?

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  • arnold said:

    @Kreator

    Perhaps you should actually go back and read the backlog of posts and that may answer your question?

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  • believe the hype said:

    Arnold~ seriously right? It’s just a little light reading Kreator.

    I was watching a documentary recently on N.W.A and it occurred to me that Howard Jones is the metal version of Eazy-E. Gross!

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  • arnold said:

    It seems that it is all business as usual for Killswitch Engage? And all of this racket has not affected Howard Jones in the slightest. And its all been forgotten about. I would bet that he is back to his old tricks. It will be interesting to see what happens when this baby is born and if it is his? I guess we will never know.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Arnold, it appears that way to me as well. How unfortunate. I do know that Allie is going by her real name and she is in fact pregnant. My guess is that Howard dumped some cash in her lap to shut her up, and I can almost guarantee that he will not be a father to that child. He’ll spend the rest of his life focusing on his needs. I really hope he chooses safer sex practices in the future. If not he is well on his way to contracting HIV and then he’ll be spreading it all over the KsE touring world.

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  • arnold said:

    The question still remain re: baby. Allie is a girl that was in porn and wasnt on birth control. Until that paternity test is done its still all speculation.

    After reading countless websites about this whole topic now, I do believe he considered(maybe still does) himself quite the casanova. Seems he had quite a number of women fooled, intelligent women too, by the postings I’ve read.

    He must live a really empty and shallow life if thats how he derives his power and sense of accomplishment.
    Its sad to think that he hasnt ever had a real fulfilling relationship with any one woman. I actually feel sorry for him.

    For him to put so many women and himself in such sexual risk, pays testament to his lack or respect for other people and for himself. If he can never respect himself, he will never respect anyone else.

    What I dont understand is how and why all of these intelligent women accepted so little from him, it sounds like even though he was playing an exquisite juggling act of text, phone calls and meetings, he must have been spreading himself so thinly between them all?

    Girls/Ladies/Women – Dont settle for so little, there is so much more out there.

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  • Andrew said:

    Killswitch Engage has gotten, and will continue to get, progressively worse. As they continue to get older, their fan base appears to get younger and younger.

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  • Jordan said:

    well, i still have respect for him. he is one of the best singers for his type of music and every album he was in was just like nothing ive ever heard before. but i wonder if he’s gonna put the “killswitch engage” on her stomach? (pun intended.)

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  • Jordan said:

    and by the way, the young fanbase is probably from guitar hero. =p just throwin that out there

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  • believe the hype said:

    Jordan.
    Seriously, what the hell are you talking about?

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  • A fan from NYC said:

    I just recently found this out and it shocks me. At 33 years old, I didn’t grow up with idols or people I admired. However when I heard of Howard Jones and KsE I checked them out and was surprised by how well he was of a frontman and the talent of the band in general. I see Howard as a piece of freedom in a music genre that needs more of it. It’s what he musically symbolizes and not his actions away from it.

    However after reading these replies, his image has now been tarnished a bit. I have no idea what is real or what isn’t yet I can believe the typical ‘rock star lifestyle’ of sex, drugs, STD’s, and rock & roll. I just figured given how he symbolized a new breed of freedom in metal, it couldn’t happen to him.

    Kurt bred a similar life into the rock world by being different; counter-culture if you like. Kurt was himself; an individual with no ties to what society defined who you should be. This is how I still see Howard. He talked in his own individuality that society stated couldn’t and or shouldn’t be. Howard showed, I am what I am which is perfectly fine and I will not confirm to your standards due to my appearance. I respect this because I live it and countless others.

    It does shock me to see Howard as the typical or stereotypical figure in the music industry. It shocks to see that he apparently hurt women in this fashion. Someone I thought, could finally be above the negativity in metal music has turned out to be someone who may have engaged in it.

    If I was a metal performer, I would find someone special and be happy. Where I go, she would as well given we could afford it.

    Howard can receive treatment for Alcoholism if he hasn’t already. Howard can further take his need for a better life through speaking with a psychotherapist along with a substance abuse counselor. Maybe something happened in his childhood that led him to lie or emotionally conceal who is really is to others. He can also receive treatment for his STD’s if this is true.

    I hope KsE can continue to be a highly successful band with Howard as their frontman. He was the best choice at that time regardless what anyone may conclude. Howard seems to be a countless professional, but he may also be very unhappy in his personal life which has caused others pain. Only he can receive help while changing into a healthier self.

    I would love to conceive and never take for granted the value of a romantic relationship in my life. For me it’s not so easy to walk up to something with blond hair and blue eyes and express how individual, sincere, honest, compassionate, loving, communicative, and humble I am and expect her to fall for me. But he has done this by being true to who he is regardless his apparent unhappiness and dangerous sexual encounters.

    I hope he receives the help he needs, because he is close to a rock idol I have. To see him leave or be forced to leave KsE would put a very bad void in metal music for someone like him who can break down barriers. I hope he can learn how to break down the barriers in his own life as well.

    Thank you.

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  • michelle said:

    @ Fan from NYC

    What the hell are you on about?
    “For me it’s not so easy to walk up to something with blond hair and blue eyes and express how individual, sincere, honest, compassionate, loving, communicative, and humble I am and expect her to fall for me. But he has done this by being true to who he is regardless his apparent unhappiness and dangerous sexual encounters.”

    Nothing about Howard is “sincere, honest, compassionate, loving, communicative”. He is a liar and a manipulator and thats all there is to be said about him. Everything he made himself out to be is so far from the truth it is almost comedic that he got away with it for so long.

    If he was a man worth anything he would face the consequences for his actions and stand up and be a man to the baby he “accidentally” made. He is old enough to be Allies father, and he had sex with her without protection. He is a grown man, surely he knows that such actions may result in a child. He wont even talk to that poor girl now, and diss her all you will, but she fell for him like everyone else, his charm, his lies and everything else he made himself out to be. A star struck groupie, but nonetheless, a young girl that fell for the wrong guy. Least he can do is stand up and be a man and be a father to the child, even if he wants nothing to do with Allie.

    Maybe you need to re-evaluate your idols, because he is a worthless excuse for a human being and is far beyond help or redemption.

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  • believe the hype said:

    NYC~

    False idol worship is unhealthy. I agree with my girl Michelle. 100%
    Great comparison between Kurt and Howard. Kurt was an addict, whose decisions and opinions were based upon his addictions. Kurt hurt himself more than he did anyone else (outside of his little girl). Howard on the other hand has hurt and/or infected COUNTLESS women, far more than he has hurt himself.
    Let me ask you, why would dozens of women who don’t know each other say the same thing? Why would they admit to having contracted an STD? It isn’t like saying he fathered a child where there is the potential of a pay check. Everyone affected by his cavalier behavior has had to pay for his mistake themselves in one way or another.
    My friend, you sound lonely and confused. Pick another hero. I have an idea why don’t you pick the douche-tastic singer Phil from All That Remains. When KsE crashes and burns I’m sure they will be there to fill the opening.

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  • A fan from NYC said:

    “My friend, you sound lonely and confused. Pick another hero. I have an idea why don’t you pick the douche-tastic singer Phil from All That Remains. When KsE crashes and burns I’m sure they will be there to fill the opening.”

    I will not comment to the person before you. I never came on this site to contradict or tell another person, his / her words are not valid. That’s just rude.

    Why do you feel I am “lonely and confused”? Once again, I had no idea of this news until very recently. I haven’t been following the band on a regular basis due to my personal life needing more attention.

    I explained how I perceived Howard Jones and I still stand by my words. He still represents a musical freedom in the heavy metal genre.

    It’s interesting folks still admired Guns & Roses even when their heavy drug use / womanizing / etc, became very public.

    For the first time, I thought of these allegations last night, listening to KsE. It made enjoying this band difficult at times. But I remembered, it’s the music and not the man.

    If someone doesn’t respect my words fine, but don’t be rude in rebuttal. Let’s continue to express our opinions in a positive and debatable matter.

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  • arnold said:

    NYC fan

    I think the difference is that GnR’s never made out that they werent womanising party guys. That was their MO. Difference with Howard seems to be he made out he was a good solemn guy, and as you can see from all the different women posting on here he was far from that.

    I have been following this little drama since it was first leaked. At first I thought it was just a bunch of scorned women who should have known better and expected nothing less from a singer in a band. They are afterall notorious for such behaviours.

    But he made out he was different and didnt partake in such behaviours,Even you fell for his good guy exterior, imagine how he must have won all these women over and he actually knew them.

    No offense to you but you are a self proclaimed fan, all you know of him is from his interviews and who he presented himself to the world. I dont know him either, but all these women posting knew him intimately for many years. Seemingly, this man that comes across as shy, and introverted is far from the truth.

    He may be able to seek treatment for his behaviours/addictions/stds. But that gives him no reason to be spreading STDs knowingly, as well as knowingly deceiving women and pretending he was in monogamous long term relationships with them.

    I still am curious as to whether this baby is his. From the sounds of it, he was fucking everything and anything with legs. But Allie was in porn and not on birth control so it will be interesting when the baby is born how it unfolds.

    I also agree with Michelle, your paragraph makes no sense.
    “I would love to conceive and never take for granted the value of a romantic relationship in my life. For me it’s not so easy to walk up to something with blond hair and blue eyes and express how individual, sincere, honest, compassionate, loving, communicative, and humble I am and expect her to fall for me. But he has done this by being true to who he is regardless his apparent unhappiness and dangerous sexual encounters. ”

    I am also assuming you are a woman? Perhaps you are one of his “victims” and are still buying into the stories he is feeding you and came on here to defend his honor?

    I went into bat for him from the start, but there are far too many stories that all sound strikingly similar and im on team BTH and Preach and all the other ladies who were slighted by this guys behaviour.

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  • A fan from NYC said:

    arnold said

    I am not going to waste my time rebutting with you or Michelle. Once again, just leave the stupid comments alone. Now ‘I am a woman who made a paragraph that made no sense’… Why add this?

    If you have issues with Howard fine. But don’t bring it to me. I explained in great detail, what Howard Jones represents to metal music.

    And yes, many in the public did not know what Guns and Roses were until their self-destructive behaviors became known. I do not remember an interview where Howard specifically stated he was perfect. I never seen or read an article where Howard stated he was morally above anyone.

    Howard stays out of legal trouble and never stated he wasn’t the best person out here. You all have put that title on him based on his mild-matter approach.

    Once again Howard still represents a diversity in heavy metal that is void. His non-stereotypical approach is what also sells. His decision to avoid getting critical with the many fans who are not so accepting of his position in heavy metal, makes him a cut above many in this genre.

    Go troll Howard on facebook and or myspace if you have issues with his actions. I know how to treat a woman. If Howard doesn’t, you cannot condemn him without condemning the many in heavy metal music who frankly, treat women like crap.

    I hope Howard continues with KsE and finds redemption. I hope he also owes up to his responsibility, by now Allie should have given birth (if he is the father). Howard can receive psychotherapy to overcome his emotional difficulties if he has them. Howard can receive medical help if he does have STD’s.

    If Howard doesn’t have anything to say, he doesn’t have too especially if none of this is truthful. This is the internet, anyone can write anything about anyone anonymously.

    I have nothing more to say.

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  • believe the hype said:

    She had the baby and it’s as white as can be. Maybe Howard isn’t the daddy after all. If not Allie should count her blessings!!

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  • arnold said:

    Haaa!!! knew it!

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  • believe the hype said:

    Arnold~
    My friend. It still does not excuse the fact that H is a filthy pig. Look at the “pop star” in Germany who just got in trouble for passing around AIDS knowingly. Hmmmm….. Makes ya think.

    As far as Allie’s baby, just because the baby looks white does not mean that it is. I think we’ll know for sure, sooner than later.

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  • Arnold said:

    I agree. Sound like he is a miserable excuse for a human from everything I’ve read. But a porn actress not on birth control? Trying to find whose sperm impregnated her is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack.

    There was that couple that were both black that had a white baby, so I know there’s still a chance it could be his, however I doubt it.

    I hope it is though, so he finally has to pay due service for his actions.

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  • believe the hype said:

    Arnold~ You are my favorite!

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  • Andrew said:

    It’s been six months and this thread is still going strong.

    I would like to ask Arnold what his relationship to this situation is, and why, as a man, he’s so “involved?”

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  • Preach! said:

    I went and looked at Allie’s facebook. The baby pictured looks totally caucasian. If I remember correctly from the pictures I’ve seen of Allie I think she has brown eyes, but the baby looks like it has dark blue eyes. Luckily for the baby the chances of Howard being the father seems very unlikely.

    The irony is almost too much. Howard won’t have to pay child support, but now he has a taste of what it’s like to deal with a self absorbed drama queen and liar.

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  • Woah said:

    Wow, what a thread. I did not know any of this.

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  • ALL KNOWING FORCE: Andrew Bilach said:

    I know. It took a life of its own.

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  • Baysin said:

    I’m pretty sure that the reason KSE let Howard go is that Howard has been battling heavy alcoholism for the past few years. I was in rehab with him in Antigua April 2010 to May 2010 which is the reason behind his short break from the band then. While he successfully completed the program while I was there he was dealing with some pretty heavy issues, both physical and mental, as a result of severe alcohol abuse. I love Howard to death and I sincerely hope he gets back on the wagon right away. This is life and death my brother! Peace!!

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  • rehab said:

    Baysin…

    Im sure Howard wouldn’t appreciate you talking about his issues, that he spoke about in the sanctity of trust that is a rehab centre.

    Its no ones business where he was, or why he left the band, or if he has issues and what sort.

    Baysin:
    I’m pretty sure that the reason KSE let Howard go is that Howard has been battling heavy alcoholism for the past few years. I was in rehab with him in Antigua April 2010 to May 2010 which is the reason behind his short break from the band then. While he successfully completed the program while I was there he was dealing with some pretty heavy issues, both physical and mental, as a result of severe alcohol abuse. I love Howard to death and I sincerely hope he gets back on the wagon right away. This is life and death my brother! Peace!!

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  • ALL KNOWING FORCE: Andrew Bilach said:

    Howard Jones should have explained his departure from Killswitch Engage. He didn’t have to go into details. He just should have said something – anything. It was handled incorrectly.

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  • rehab said:

    If someone is going though life threatening addiction, the only thing they should do is handle their life and get healthy.

    He doesn’t owe anyone an explanation.

    This is where fans, social networks, blogs have it all wrong. Sometimes personal issues and health overrides how they should handle the media, or fans. Everyone always wants everything from an artist. This is why half of them turn to drugs and other addictive/destructive behaviours as its the only time they can clock out and get their own space.

    Give muss and artists a fucking break, they deserve their own life and some privacy too.

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  • Amped said:

    Howard is not, and has never been married. Your article I fraught with lies and bullshit

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  • ALL KNOWING FORCE: Andrew Bilach said:

    We’re approaching 200 comments on this thread. I’m still shocked it’s receiving comments years after it was written.

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  • Believe The Hype said:

    Surprise!!!! Howard, you ARE the father of Allie Foster’s baby

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